I am a former porn addict. I haven’t watched it for more than a year now, with a few, brief fallbacks, nothing crazy. I’ve had great success with the aneros prostate orgasms and non ejaculatory orgasms etc. This was all achieved by fantasizing. I feel like the way I fantasies is very goal oriented and (for me) shock related. It’s all my mind can do inorder to feel good at the moment. In other words I don’t feel completely well with it. No shame or this and that, this is just my observation, that it is draining me and regressing me into my former self. I am not demonizing fantasy or anything, this is just my experience of where I am at at the moment.
ANYWAYS- my question is: is it possible to have succes WITHOUT fantasizing? If not: is it possible to minimize fantasy? My fantasizing is not organic yet and still very porn like and shock based.
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I’ve had good success listening to audio meditation and relaxation tracks. The Mindgasm series of training audios and exercises also has been very helpful and that uses minimal fantasy elements and encourages using fantasy as little as you can. Since prostate and NEO feelings are a big part mental I’d imagine a large part of this for you is just believing, and convincing yourself that you can do this without fantasy.
I am largely unable to fantasize so all of my sessions are without arousal for the most part. I can achieve reasonable success but it takes a lot of concentration.
Recovering porn addict here. I try to keep my fantasies to brief flashes. No more than ten seconds. The only other stimuli I see or hear is the quiet thunderstorm coming from my TV. Erotic asmr is also an option. Those are found on YouTube and can be searched as such. I find that if you can abstain from masturbation, those brief flashes have a greater impact during play.
Another possibility is changing fantasy from porn to sensory. Fantasize about sensations, not about acts and images. Don’t imagine a person touching you, imagine being touched. Perhaps that will help fantasy continue, but allow you to break away from the unwanted porn-influenced fantasies.
i like porn as much as the next guy, but when i’m doing prostate/anal stimulation, i’m focused on the feelings/sensations, not really thinking about anything else. I sometimes will set up my laptop camera on my ass so i can watch myself, which i do kind of enjoy, but i’m still just focused on me.
It’s very possible. I was in your situation also, stopped porn.
I have amazing sessions with nothing but focus on my body. My new thing is to imagine I have traded bodies with a really hot chick (not fantasizing about porn things) and I am trying to feel how a woman would feel (not gay either, if you were wondering). It’s so difficult to explain. But helps to get way into prostate massage.