Picked up a knockoff Aneros SGX at a sex shop yesterday (Put them side by side – identical but much cheaper). I am a smaller statured white guy (5'7" 140lbs) so I thought the SGX would be good as it is supposed to be popular with asian males.
So of course I had to give it a try last night. On insertion it created a massive erection and a pretty high burst of arousal – but the arousal faded in seconds, and the erection faded fairly quickly too. I left in in for maybe half an hour, chilling on the bed, but nothing happened. I clenched and unclenched and felt a little something, but the only significant feelings came with pulling it out a little and letting it slip back in.
So far the story is unexciting but then my wife came in to ask how the "butt plug" was working. I told her it was lame so she suggested we try it while we fuck. Of course I was up for this. Once we got started the Aneros seemed to come into play, I could feel some extra feeling perhaps once the prostate started to get aroused. I was ultra hard and had so much lust and drive like I used to have in our pre-baby days, I totally got lost in the sex but after a bit I didn't really notice any sensation coming particularly from the Aneros itself – just a general boost in intensity.
Anyways the odd thing is despite pounding my wife into exhaustion, I couldn't get off. So she decided to finish me with oral, it felt great and I sort-of came with no ejaculate to her surprise (and disappointment). I was still hard and horny and we were just laying there looking at each other in a bit of sexy confusion, so she took it as a challenge, jumped on it and we got into some pretty intense deep throat/throatfucking action, I came again with no ejaculate though it felt pretty damn good that time.
So my wife decided at this point she was totally played out and I was still rock hard. We had probably been going hard for almost an hour by now. So I just had to finish with my hand and it took quite the death grip effort. It was a massive cum explosion and intense orgasm. I was still rock hard (and feeling fairly ready to go) until I went to clean up and removed the Aneros which was like letting the air out of the balloon, so to speak.
Ok, this was a great experience but talking about it afterward both my wife and I felt it was pretty lame having to finish by jerking off. And she also felt I lasted too long, this was probably the longest I ever lasted in fact. She can't go that long as her body is still recovering from the birth.
So, I thought that using the Aneros, dry orgasms were only supposed to occur without penile stimulation. Does it also work to cause dry orgasms during sex or masturbation? If so, why don't they market it this way as I think everyone would buy it? And since it had such a powerful effect, why was it so ineffective in solo play like it is "supposed to be used?"
tl;dr Penile orgasms with Aneros inserted caused all normal orgasm effects, including the ejaculatory muscle spasms, without any ejaculate or refractory period. Hard to finish, had to use death grip. Maintained erection even after ejaculation. Is this an expected effect?
Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/aneros/comments/2tkiex/first_time_use_is_it_working_properly_caused_dry/
First thing, that "little something" you felt would be what you should focus on. It’s not about doing some general motion, but focusing on what feels good to expand on that pleasure. In fact, that "ejaculatory muscle spasms" might probably be the involuntary spasms of the prostate stimulating itself (you just felt the more strongly due to the Aneros). It does take time–a lot, depending on the person. So do try to find that pleasure and focus more on that. It is unexciting at first and questionable, but Aneros is more about perseverance than anything. Remember, we’re hard-wired to have direct orgasms; now you’re hunting for the indirect one. Read the Getting Started page on the Aneros Wiki–I also suggest you focus on seeing what things you can do to get your wife involved in the dry orgasm process. 😉 With your main problem, I had a similar situation when I first started butt play and Aneros. Not really sure if it’s the same, though. It felt amazing to put it in–instant erection, but the I would steadily lose it (still do). I would ride up to a "orgasm" and not cum. Then, it would take me forever to actually evacuate and as soon I took it out, I was done. I don’t know of other people’s experiences, but from what I figured out: I was desensitizing myself. The fake ejaculations felt like I was reaching the usual point–because of the Aneros helping–but I didn’t finish. And then it took so much force to get to actually cum. I learned later, that this is both a problem and a blessing. If you touch your penis while trying for a Super-O, you can shut down the whole process because your brain switches over to the more intense pleasure from the penis and any contact from the rear-end can complicate or make the please more complex. I’ve found that if I go hard–penis and prostate–I can last a long time. But if I do it softly from the start, I can cum at a drop of a hat and continue to do so without much of a break in-between if the Aneros is still in. Experiment some more. See about reaching Super-O, maybe with your wife involved. See about what you can do with sex using the Aneros–try real slow, or taking it out when you want to end the session, ect.. Experiment; enjoy the journey.
Wow, great reply. It sounds like you had a similar experience. When you lose your erection do you lose it for the whole session? Do you actually experience orgasms while limp? In my case, those muscle spasms were in fact the ordinary ones that would launch the cum – I asked my wife and she said my penis was bucking in her mouth like I came but no fluid came out. Normally if I were to have held back an ejaculation at least some pre-cum or actual cum would have spurted, but zero fluid in this case. In this case I wasn’t even trying to hold back! However your explanation helps describe what happened in my session. To me the paradox seemed quite odd – the sensation is amplified but the movement toward ejaculation is slowed down, whereas normally more sensation == faster ejaculation. But if you consider the prostate stimulation to be adding only to the sensation experienced by the brain, rather than put towards the "ejaculation counter" if you will, then the two counters are out of sync, and half of the reflex is fired (penis muscles, orgasmic pleasure) while the other half does not (release of ejaculate from glandular storage, start of refractory period). It’s not too much of a stretch to assume this would then reset the "ejaculation counter" as your brain thinks you have finished. This race condition explains both the heightened sensation and the increased stamina – and the need for intense stimulation to build up enough to fire the ejaculation and finish. I read the wiki with some interest as I am among other things a scientist who has studied bio/chem/biology and also study neuroscience as a hobby. As such the concept of "rewiring" for pleasure as described by Aneros users baffles me – all this device does is either stimulate the gland itself or the nerves attached to it. Only a large change in the way the brain interprets such stimulation could change it from what I felt (a small but pleasurable tickle in an invisible gland) to what an experienced user feels (Super-O) – and this would be an unusual thing for the brain to do. Fortunately, I love a good experiment. I got into this anal thing after trying a butt plug in an attempt to cure chronic hemorrhoids (success by the way) and finding the side effect that it was in fact, enjoyable. But it seemed far from the optimum shape for men, so I bought the Aneros. Whereas in my wife the plug is a major pleasure amplifier, to me it mostly just felt like I had something up my bum.
> When you lose your erection do you lose it for the whole session? Do you actually experience orgasms while limp? I use the Aneros for mostly trying for a Super-O (gotten close, no catch yet). I can tell you it’s very common for men to lose erections with an Aneros in because the signals in the butt interfere with the signals in the front. If you’re going for a Super-O/dry orgasm just with the Aneros (no penis touching), then sometimes you’ll be limp. I’ve gone through some strong mini-Os while limp. I’ve heard (again, haven’t’ gotten there) that when people have a Super-O they have a strong erection, but then the purpose of prostate play for the Super-O isn’t for ejaculation, so the penis is out of the picture. Side affect. > In my case, those muscle spasms were in fact the ordinary ones that would launch the cum – I asked my wife and she said my penis was bucking in her mouth like I came but no fluid came out. Normally if I were to have held back an ejaculation at least some pre-cum or actual cum would have spurted, but zero fluid in this case. In this case I wasn’t even trying to hold back! There was probably pre-cum, as stimulating the prostate does produce more pre-cum. Swallowed, mixed with other stuff. Whatever. I’m sure what you were feeling was the prostate moving against the Aneros. Next time you go pee, stop the flow. Start, stop, start, stop. Repeat. You’ll feel a push and pull in your rectum. This is a kegel exercise. Practice this for a while–as it’s teaching you the muscle movement–then apply that to when you use the Aneros. You can do the same action while masturbating to stimulate your prostate as well–just not as strongly. > But if you consider the prostate stimulation to be adding only to the sensation experienced by the brain, rather than put towards the "ejaculation counter" if you will, then the two counters are out of sync, and half of the reflex is fired (penis muscles, orgasmic pleasure) while the other half does not (release of ejaculate from glandular storage, start of refractory period). It’s not too much of a stretch to assume this would then reset the "ejaculation counter" as your brain thinks you have finished. This race condition explains both the heightened sensation and the increased stamina – and the need for intense stimulation to build up enough to fire the ejaculation and finish. And that’s part of the problem with going from both ends. A little anal play can add to the sex or mostly anal play can be amazing, but too much of both creates confusion–from what I’ve experienced. > I read the wiki with some interest as I am among other things a scientist who has studied bio/chem/biology and also study neuroscience as a hobby. As such the concept of "rewiring" for pleasure as described by Aneros users baffles me – all this device does is either stimulate the gland itself or the nerves attached to it. Only a large change in the way the brain interprets such stimulation could change it from what I felt (a small but pleasurable tickle in an invisible gland) to what an experienced user feels (Super-O) – and this would be an unusual thing for the brain to do. It’s a general term–give it some leeway. It describes a whole lot of things. You’re not remapping or changing anything in the body, but you are teaching it. First, you need to learn how to move and activate those certain muscles. Second, you need to refine those movements down to allow the Aneros to target a certain area. Third, you need to allow your body to adjust to the sensitivity of another pleasure. Fourth, you’re increasing the sensitivity of the prostate to stimulation. And there’s more, and more, and more. The phrase is "rewriting" just to simplify the concept. We’re so used to one system of wires–penis, penis, penis–so you’ve got to create a new writing loom to accommodate another pleasure. > Fortunately, I love a good experiment. I got into this anal thing after trying a butt plug in an attempt to cure chronic hemorrhoids (success by the way) and finding the side effect that it was in fact, enjoyable. But it seemed far from the optimum shape for men, so I bought the Aneros. Whereas in my wife the plug is a major pleasure amplifier, to me it mostly just felt like I had something up my bum. It takes a while. You gotta understand that it’s both mental and physical challenges. A lot of men can’t stand the idea of putting something up their butt, let alone seeking pleasure solely from it. Then, yeah it’s uncomfortable if it’s unusual, but try your best to accommodate yourself to it. Lots of lube, practice, relaxation, ect. Do keep it up. I went for two years flip-flopping on the idea of the Aneros I bought. It helped some wet orgasms, but I couldn’t get a dry one, and I didn’t see the whole craze behind it. Then I dropped by a reddit post and figured I try again. I reached a small mini-O with the best ejaculating orgasm I ever had. It was, frankly, amazing. Better then the first orgasm I ever had. I wanted sing songs of the joy and excitement I felt–fucking seriously. And then I tried reaching higher and higher for the next week like a crack addict, desensitizing myself in the process–enough that I was hurting after a while. One lesson learned; smacked in the face by my ignorance. So I gave myself some days to rest, tried again, rinse and repeated. Now I’m on this great journey upward.