Involuntaries – medical explanation?

Hi, everyone!

I sent a similar DM to u/butt_munky who gave me some great pointers, but also suggested that I make a general post.

I have been really struggling to figure out what the involuntaries are, as they seem to be crucial to making progress to good feelings with the Aneros. I have some medical training, so have been trying to figure out exactly what these are, to know if I have been getting them or if I need to redirect my training.

If, as some have suggested, I try to hold PC contractions at various levels of intensity, the muscle will eventually fatigue. This is just like trying to hold an arm curl with a dumbbell for a long period of time. The muscle will start to shake because it has run “out of gas,” going into something called “tetany.” It can be pretty exhausting (as with the dumbbell) to hold this level of contraction, and the muscle trembling is not particularly pleasurable. If I really concentrate, I can sometimes force my mind to think that this is pleasurable, maybe with an occasional very brief “zing” of what I assume might be the start of a P-wave. Most writers don’t seem to indicate that their sessions are exhausting.

Was this a “calm seas” PGasm?

Hey guys.

recently i have been really enjoying ALess sessions. They have been getting really intense and the last full PGasm i had was Aless (just over a week ago, i think).

Of the full PGasms i have had the orgasms have been intense with the prostate contractions feeling like “BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM!!!!!!!” etc… with this going on for minutes.

So, last night I was having a really nice ALess session and i could really feel it building with the PWaves getting higher and involuntaries really feeling more intense and focused on my prostate. It was really nice and i would have been happy just enjoying that before i went to sleep.

Anyway, shortly after that my prostate began contracting A La PGasm but this felt different. Instead of the “BAM BAM BA-BAM BAMBAMBAM, BBBBBB-BAM….” it instead felt a lot more gentle and slow. like my prostate was being lovingly and rhymically squeezed. My heart was beating harder but not like it has before for my other Pgasms.

This was most definitely my prostate contracting and it felt totally amazing but this was not the same as before.

I have heard about the “calm seas” orgasms and i think that this maybe sounds a bit like that. What do you guys think? I stopped after about 15 minutes cos i needed to sleep but i really feel like i could have kept that going indefinitely.

It was less intense for sure but not worse. Just different.

My first P-waves!

So for context: I’ve lurked a while but decided to make my first post after my first major breakthrough. I owned the helix trident until I lost it on a trip recently like a fool. I never had a great experience with it. Minor sensations, comfort, but nothing crazy. This is entirely due to user error and a poor fit regarding what I need.

Which brings us to Monday. I ordered a progasm and peridise to replace my lost model and was excited to try them out. I warmed up with the peridise by using it manually (just rubbing it on the prostate, not the right way to use it but sue me). This was the first thing that really helped me level up, I wanted a better warm up and I got one. It was easy and felt great.

Then came the progasm. I opted for a YouTube link that hotel guy used for binaural beats, slipped it in, and tried to clear my mind. My plan is usually to do nothing for a while, then start manually operating it with my pc muscles if I feel like it. The do nothing portion was not like my helix sessions at all! Usually, my butt clenches involuntarily and randomly at the beginning of the session. The progasm was so snug that I had more control over what happened, thus no involuntary squeezes. I also felt less sensation at the beginning, which was weird. I felt it helpful to have this new found control because I could also squeeze with more intention.

Interesting Sensations

So I’ve been on this aneros train on and off for about 6 years now, but only really in the last year have I given proper thought and effort to exploring this. I own two aneros products — the helix syn and the progasm.

After reading through various posts, it appeared to me that doing kegels were important, but mindfulness was more so than anything else. So yesterday, I tried something slightly different — I came into my session as relaxed as possible, and adopting a “curious” mindset to anything I felt during the session rather than trying to force anything. I started off by inserting the helix and scrolling Reddit for about 10 minutes to just get used to it in me. Then, I lay down with my knees up, feet flat on the bed and listened to some calming music/binaural beats.

In past sessions, because I’ve seen videos of guys basically flopping around on the bed, I thought that I had to try and imitate that kind of movement and deliberately squeezed/moved to try and emphasise that. Well, that would give me some feelings but it would often exhaust me and feel discouraged at the end of the session. Tonight’s session on the other hand, I really just focused on relaxing as much as possible and letting my body move when it wanted to. I focused on my breathing (5 seconds in, 5 seconds out) and tried to leave my body as relaxed as possible.

Involuntaries… what now?

I can usually trigger the involuntary movements pretty easily with a few *flex and holds* however once the involuntary movements start I am not quite sure what to do next. Here’s what I have tried:
1. Maintain the flex – Requires a lot of concentration, some pleasurable sensations to start but they generally fade and I restart the process again
2. Relax the flex – Involuntaries stop and I have to flex harder again to restart
3. Flex harder – Involuntaries get stronger and it feels like the aneros is fucking me but muscles become fatigued

*Flex and hold* = contracting my PC and sphincter muscles at same time and holding the flex

Tenth session and I feel so close! Advice?

Hey guys, I’m looking for some advice to hit that next level.

I’m at the point now where I can get involuntaries of the muscles that move the toy, but they don’t dominate the session, just appear now and then. I’m also consistently getting some very nice pleasure in my session at times.

The session kind of goes like this (I’ll try to make this not sound like fap material 😆) – I watch porn with my toy in and I’ll generally contract the muscles, it’s kind of voluntary, kind of not, I just follow what my body does and sometimes that can set off the true involuntaries. The pleasure that I get kind of comes in ‘waves’, by which I mean that after the toy has stimulated my prostate sufficiently, it begins to feel very nice. Usually at this point my dick gets hard and it’s like my body is trying to cum and I’m at the edge, then it dials back. It can feel very, very nice. The pleasure subsides for a little while, then another wave will come and often it can be stronger. Are these what pleasure waves are?

The toy brushing against my prostate begins to feel amazing and as the pleasure builds and it lifts off my prostate, that’s where the respite comes to feel that wave of pleasure.

I DIDN’T BREAK IT! (+A-Less)

Hey guys!

So, quick recap: first PGasm about 2 weeks ago. went at it hard for several (mind-blowing) days and then lost the mojo (thanks to all of you who talked me off the ledge…LOL)

For the past several days i have been focusing on Aless sensations so that i wasn’t putting any external pressure on my prostate. The sessions were great and i was getting some awesome involuntaries, PWaves and the occasional Mini-O. Was also working on the mindset of letting go and releasing my body to whatever wanted to come.

Anywho…I was chatting with another bud from this sub last night and when i finished (with the full intention of going to sleep) i felt an involuntary flutter of the P Spot so i thought, why not. a quick session whilst i’m all dopy and half asleep. From the outset though, i was trying to keep everything in my lower body totally loose and relaxed and just focused on the tingle and let that build. Every time i noticed any slight tension i let it go and brought attention back to the tingle and nurtured that mentally.

Really soon into the session (about 20 minutes?) i felt the familiar buildup of energy as the tingle increased and got stronger. again i was gently mindful of not becoming tense in any way.

Long story short, this all built up into a full PGasm! prostate contracting, cock-bouncing, precum leaking PGasm.

After 4 long years, finally achieved prostate orgasms!

Started off some 4 years ago (with a Helix), and saw little or no progress in the first year or so after which I bought an Eupho. The Eupho helped with involuntaries a lot, after which I could at least feel pleasurable sensations during sessions, but plateaued with that fairly quickly so about a year after buying the Eupho I picked up the MGX Trident which had only just released.

With the MGX I saw pretty rapid improvement in my sessions from 2019 to now, and had some ‘almost there’ moments, and possibly some mini-o’s though I’m entirely sure but I never really felt like I could get past that invisible barrier till last week.

My first experience a month ago with edibles was not bad, but I think the high might have been a little distracting so last week I tried using the same infused coconut oil as lube and I noticed that it made my prostate quite sensitive to any involuntaries. I had however used only 1/4th of the amount I would ordinarily consume orally, so last night I decided to double it.

A mental trick?

Hey brothers!

I’ve responded and commented a couple of times to others about how the journey to prostate orgasms and discovery of prostate pleasure in general can seem difficult at the start because we, as men, are not taught about this as we grow up. In those posts i compare it to regular masturbation, an experience that we all pretty much had no problem at all figuring out.

Stick with me here…

We all know what to do with our dicks. We figured out at (most likely) an early age that it feels REALLY good when we touch, tug on, stroke and caress our dicks and when you do that enough you get to the really good bit and cum!

We do this for years and we build up our arsenal of various techniques and know what we need to do to get the job done quick or done slow. We are probably soooo familiar with this that we can mentally recall ALL of the sensations from our various techniques.

Stick with me…

With prostate play and prostate orgasms we are learning how to masturbate a totally new sex organ. For me i think i have just realized that it helps to think of the PWaves generated by kegels like you would think of stroking your dick when jacking off. This seems especially helpful at the start when things are more consciously controlled (until the involuntaries start). For the last few days i have just been working on ALess sessions to hone in on the sensations and i found that i could really amp up my arousal by really, literally, thinking of it as masturbating my prostate with my PC just as i would focus on my helmet and shaft if jacking off.

Progress, and question regarding frequency of practice and sex in general

I’ve been an Aneros user on and off for a while now. Recently got back into practicing with my helix syn. I have a Progasm ice which imo feels better but isn’t nearly as manoeuvrable.

So each day this week I’ve been slipping in the helix and relaxing for around an hour at a time (sometimes longer) to see if I can make some progress toward p waves etc. I’ve avoided masturbating all week while I do this in an effort to build up my prostate as other allude to.

I seem to get the involuntaries by flexing/contracting my PC muscles (kegels?) to around 50-70%. Any less and there’s no effect, any more and the effect subsides and it’s hard to maintain. First question is, do I basically just need to stick at it by holding that position? I sometimes feel like I get flecks of pleasure, although I often wonder whether I am convincing myself of this as some kind of placebo. What can I do to step on from this? It feels ok but after a while my kegels get tired or I lose interest. I know that ‘chasing’ things is counter intuitive!

Secondly, back to frequency of masturbation / sex etc. I have a gf, she knows I practice with the aneros, she’s very accepting of all that luckily. We normally have sex at least once sometimes twice a week on average, I’d typically masturbate another two or three times in between. Does ejaculating, or indeed penile stimulation set back progress? Does it become more difficult to acquire P waves the next day or even two days after ejaculation?